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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2010, 06:55:30 PM »
Stump you ain't no slouch either!

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2010, 01:35:29 PM »
Stump you ain't no slouch either!

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2010, 06:58:27 PM »
I'm new at all of this, but does anyone finish their calls with 100% bees wax?
I've heard of it being done.   It's supposed to be a good finish too.
Would it lack the required durability for heavy field use?

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2010, 07:37:20 PM »
Yes eventually the beeswax would wear off, what i do for woods that i can't finish with spar, is crank the lathe to high speed and burnish in a few coats of teak oil, then i put some carnauba wax or you could use beeswax to polish it up and give at a gloss. Eventually the gloss will wear away with the wax but there will still be that protective layer of teak oil. Now all that said I'm a noob at this too but ive had good results with this simple finish. WELCOME by that way!  :bigup:
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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2010, 09:02:28 AM »
Larry
The Thunderbird finish was developed by a guy here locally. I thought about trying it out but didnt know how it would do.

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2011, 10:56:15 PM »
Nice.  Glad to hear the details from one who has been around the block a time or 2.

And that rod finish I was eyeing up at mudds the other day.  But like you I had fish eyes when I did wingbones. 

I use to grain fill with ca.  I did untill I had 2 calls where the ca after curing and after my topcoat got milky white in spots.  I have no idea why.  But it was a pain.  And Ca did not do well for detailed areas.

So know after tips I got here I use sanding sealer to fill grain and its back to regular poly.  But wipe on.  Just seems the finish I like.
I love just the oil more but drying and the lack of a glass surface finally go to me.

There are 3 probable causes that come to mind immediately when I see someone dealing with the dreaded "milky white spots":

1)   contaminated surface where the piece was pawed before or during the CA finishing process... I wipe everything down with acetone before applying CA, and am careful not to give into the temptation to touch it with my fingers to "see if it's dry yet" while I'm impatiently waiting the full 50 or 60 seconds before I can add the next coat.

2)   moisture in the wood... if you're 100% sure the blank you were using was in fact dry, it's possible that you got water under the finish during wet sanding... sometimes you don't get complete coverage of all the wood's surface - especially in little decorative nooks and crannies - and if there is a hole, the water will find it.

3)   Some oily woods can react with the CA and give you a cloudy finish.

A couple more little tid bits... CA finishes clouding up sometimes show up right away, but sometimes it can take 2 or 3 weeks to develop. If you develop white spots that are more than a little cloudiness, then the CA is probably lifting, which coincidentally, is most often (in my personal experience) caused be the same 3 reasons I mentioned above.

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2011, 10:41:00 PM »
Here's another one I have had good sucess with. Thunderbird Bow Epoxy http://www.tbirdarchery.com/

It works really nice, great shine and great durability. I know a few big name guys that use this, and have never looked any further.

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2011, 08:37:29 PM »
Hey Mikey-I just finished turning my second call finishing both with bees wax (if you call that a finish) and really appreciate your comments.  When you talk about dippingI assume you are referring to wax. I want to try that next so I bought a small crock pot but dont know what kind of wax to use.  What kind of wax should I use?  Also, what kind of clothe do I use to get a shiny finish without streaking?  I have been practicing my turning skills with Red Oak but quickly moved to Black Walnut.  Any suggestions from you or others would be greatly appreciated.

If there is already literature out there you can direct me to that will work also.

Thanks
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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2011, 10:34:38 PM »
Where do you get your 1800 grit cloth back shop rolls?

Thanks
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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2011, 10:37:17 PM »
Greg when you hear of people refer to dipping they're usually talking about spar urethane or spar varnish.
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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2011, 10:33:18 AM »
Thanks for the reply.

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2011, 02:59:14 PM »
Is spar varnish or teak oil a better choice for durability? :huh: Is either adequate for a finish by itself?

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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2011, 07:46:15 PM »
Is spar varnish or teak oil a better choice for durability? :huh: Is either adequate for a finish by itself?

Kind of apples and oranges.  Spar is a very, very durable stand-alone finish.  For that reason it is very popular amongst callmakers.  In my opinion it is only surpassed by CA and some of the moisture cure polyurethane products.  Teak oil is more of a penetrating oil, and not a top coat finish so comparing it to spar is apples and oranges.  I don't care for teak oil personally, but many folks use it with good results.  For durability....Spar, hands down.
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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2012, 09:05:14 PM »
I  have been doing a lot of work with CA...and next call I turn I am going to finish my call with it.  I have only done strikers before, but feel pretty sure I can lay down CA on a pot...guess we'll see.
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Re: The PERFECT Finish..
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2012, 11:53:06 PM »
Careful when doing a pot, I guess the physics of it make the CA want to sling off.  I'm not saying it can't be done I have done it, just make sure to wear you face mask.
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